Mustafa Destici, Wapampando wa Great Union Party, adanenanso mochititsa chidwi ku Haber7.com ponena za zomwe zachitika.
Kuyankha mafunso a Haber7 Editor-in-Chief Osman Ateşli, Destici, chopereka chamutu, zonena za Purezidenti wa TTB Şebnem Koru Fincancı, mtsogoleri wa CHP Kılıçdaroğlu ku USA ndi ‘mankhwala‘ Kunyoza kunapereka kuwunika kofunikira pakukula kwa zisankho za People’s Alliance ndi zokhumudwitsa za Greece.
Pofotokoza za maola a 8 anthawi yotayika paulendo wa Kılıçdaroğlu ku USA, Destici adati zomwe akuti mankhwalawa ndi zabodza.
CHPmpangoPolankhula za ‘ sitepe, Destici adati m’mbuyomu, lingaliro pankhaniyi lidathetsedwa ndi Khothi Lamilandu ndi zomwe Kılıçdaroğlu mwiniwake adachita.
Destici adanenetsa kuti pempho loti liperekedwe ku Nyumba Yamalamulo likhalanso mayeso a HDP, omwe amathandizira poyera LGBT.
Tikusiyani nokha ndi zokambirana za Osman Ateşli ndi Chairman wa BBP Destici:
KODI ERDOĞAN ANALANKHULA CHIYANI PA KULLIYE?
Choyamba ndikufuna ndiyambire apa sabata yatha munakumana ndi a President ku Kulliye. Kodi mungafotokoze zambiri za msonkhanowo?
Pamsonkhanowu, tinali ndi mwayi wopenda nkhani za Turkey. Monga lamulo la pamutu, malamulo a EYT ndi ogwira ntchito m’makontrakitala, ma subcontractors, aphunzitsi athu olipidwa, aphunzitsi athu aulemu a Kosi ya Korani. Timawunika mkati mwazofuna zomwe timalandira kuchokera kumagulu onse a anthu ndikugawana ndi Purezidenti wathu. Mutu wina ndi zomwe zikuchitika padziko lapansi. Nkhondo ya Russia-Ukraine, mikangano ndi Greece, zomwe zikuchitika mudziko lachi Islam ndi dziko la Turkey. Kuphatikiza apo, zisankho za 2023, monga BBP, tili limodzi ndi People’s Alliance. Lachisanu, tinali limodzi mu pulogalamu ya zaka za zana la Turkey, tinali ndi msonkhano ndi Purezidenti kumapeto kwa pulogalamuyo. Pambuyo pake, popita ku Gemlik kukatsitsa TOGG, tidakambirana ndi Purezidenti wathu komanso Bahçeli pandege.
Tikupita kumalo a chisankho. Muli m’munda ndipo muli ndi ntchito yofunika kwambiri. Kodi mukukonzekera ntchito yanji ngati BBP?
Tidachita msonkhano waukulu ku Ankara Lamlungu latha. Tikhala ndi msonkhano wathu wakudera la Aegean ku Denizli pa 20 Novembara. Tidzakhala ku Kocaeli pa 27 November. Tidzachita msonkhano wathu wa Marmara, tidzakhala ku Urfa pa 4 Disembala komanso ku Adana pa Disembala 11. Sikuti timangokhala pamisonkhano yokha, misonkhano yathu yapoyera, nkhani za m’maholo ndi kuyendera mzinda ndi chigawo kumapitiriza.
“M’KALE KILIÇDAROĞLU ANALETSA ZOPEREKA ZOPEZEKA ZOPEZEKA ZOKHUDZA MTIMA”
Pali nkhani yamutu yomwe idabwera pagulu makamaka pambuyo potuluka kwa Kılıçdaroğlu, yomwe tidakambirana posachedwa. Tikuyembekezeleka kuti ku Nyumba ya Malamulo kubwere ganizo lomwe cholinga chake ndi kuonetsetsa kuti anthu ovala scara kumutu komanso osavala vala vala amavala bwino, makamaka m’malamulo oyendetsera dziko lino. Panali zokambilana zina zomwe zidachitika pofuna kuti agamule ganizoli pamodzi ndi zipani za ndale. Munayimbanso foni, “Tiyeni tipange zosintha limodzi”. Mukuganiza kuti pakhala thandizo kuchokera kwa otsutsa? Kodi mukuganiza kuti cholinga cha ganizoli ndi kuthetsa nkhaniyi?
Mukudziwa, Kılıçdaroğlu adapanga ndondomeko. Chifukwa ali wofunitsitsa komanso wofunitsitsa kukhala woyimira pulezidenti wa tebulo la 6. Ndikuganiza kuti zidzakhala zovuta kubwereranso ikatha mphindi ino. Kuthekera kwake kupitiriza ndi kutsimikiza komweko ndi kolimba kwambiri. Inde, kuti apereke uthenga kwa anthu opembedza, kwa iwo omwe adakumanapo ndi chizunzo chamutu m’mbuyomu, kapena, m’mawu awoawo, ‘BayiIye anapereka chopereka choterocho m’malo mwake. Koma tiwona, kodi izi ndi zowona kapena zachinyengo? Tiziwona izi tsopano. Chifukwa nkhaniyi singathe kuthetsedwa ndi lingaliro la lamulo. Sizinatsimikizidwenso. Chinthu chabwino kuchita ndikusintha Constitution. M’malo mwake, tidachita izi mu 2008 ngati AK Party-MHP-BBP. Panthawiyo, mtsogoleri wathu wofera chikhulupiriro Purezidenti Muhsin anali mu Nyumba ya Malamulo kuyimira BBP. Kusintha kwa malamulo oyendetsera dziko lino ndi nambala 411 kudalandiridwa mothandizidwa ndi achiwiri a zipani zitatuzi, monga momwe zilili ndi People’s Alliance lero. Koma Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu, yemwe ndi mtsogoleri wa CHP komanso lero, anali wachiwiri kwa wapampando wa gululo. Ndi dzanja lake, adasumira bwalo lamilandu la Constitutional Court kuti lichotsedwe ndipo adathetsa. Tsopano tiyeni tione mmene angakhalire. Izi zidzakhala mtundu wa mapepala a CHP, komanso maphwando monga IYI Party ndi Felicity Party, omwe amati akuimira maziko a dziko ndi mizimu. Zachidziwikire, lingalirolo linagawidwa ndi a MHP ndi ife Lachiwiri. Tinali tikukonzekera kale ndikuwunikanso lingalirolo. Kupereka kwazinthu ziwiri. Zoperekazo zikuphatikiza: Ufulu wachikhulupiliro ndi zovala zomwe zimatsatira zimatchulidwa kale ngati malaya amutu. Ndilotsimikizika kwathunthu ndi malamulo oyendetsera dziko.
“LAMULO LIDZATETEZA BANJA LA CHISILAMU NDI TURKISH PAKUTETEZA CHOVALA MUTU”
Palinso mawu onena za amene savala scarve kumutu.
Inde, imatsimikiziranso. Munthuyo akhoza kuyendayenda ndi mutu wake wosaphimbidwa kapena kuvala chovala chamutu, monga momwe akufunira, ndipo izi zimatetezera kwathunthu. M’nkhani yachiwiri, pali kusintha kokhudzana ndi chitetezo cha banja la Muslim Turkey. aponso Banja lachi Muslim la Turkey Mapangidwe a banja la anthu aku Turkey amakhala ndi amuna ndi akazi, motero amalepheretsa miyoyo ina. Chifukwa siteji yapamwamba ya izi imapulumutsa dziko la Turkey ku chikhalidwe chomwe maukwati a amuna kapena akazi okhaokha adzamasulidwa kapena kuloledwa kukwatirana, monga m’mayiko ena a ku Ulaya. Tanena kale malingaliro athu, zimagwirizana ndi ntchito yathu.
“LAMULO ili ndi mayeso a maphwando ngati HDP omwe amathandiza LGBT”
Pali maphwando omwe amathandizira mayendedwe awa. Inde, ganizoli likadzabwera ku Nyumba ya Malamulo, mukuganiza kuti apanga zotani?
Awanso ndi mayeso kwa iwo. Ngati tiganizira za nkhani ya HDP, nthambi ya ndale ya PKK, kumbali imodzi, iwo amagwirizana kwambiri ndi gulu la LGBT. Amawoneka ngati oteteza awo akuluakulu. Koma akapita Kum’mawa, amafuna mavoti a abale athu odzipereka a ku Kurdish, ndipo amawapeza. Chifukwa chake, ikhala ngati pepala la turnussol kwa ife komanso kwa iwo. Zoonadi, HDP sichilemekeza zikhulupiriro ndi chikhalidwe cha abale athu aku Kurdish ndi makhalidwe awo. Kodi ali ndi ulemu kapena ayima kumbali ya opotoka, zimenezonso zidzaonekera poyera. Kunena zowona, sikunali kofunikira kwa ife kuwachezera konse. Kunali kungotaya nthawi. Koma nthumwi za AK Party zidapanga chisankho. Inde, tsopano tiwona maganizo awo ku Nyumba ya Malamulo.
ZIMENE ACHINYAMATA AMAFUNA, AMACHITA”
Purezidenti wa TTB Şebnem Koru Fincancı zonena kuti TAF idagwiritsa ntchito zida za mankhwala zidakambidwa kwambiri. Pambuyo pake, Wapampando wa CHP Kılıçdaroğlu akuti “boma silinayang’ane malonda a mankhwala osokoneza bongo kuti atseke vuto lomwe lilipo pano”. Zachidziwikire, izi ndizovuta kwa anthu apadziko lonse lapansi potsata Turkey. Kodi mumatanthauzira bwanji mawu awa?
Mawu onsewa ndi miseche yosavomerezeka. Mfundo yakuti Fincancı ali kale Pulezidenti wa TTB zikutanthauza kuswa mchere. Chifukwa mkaziyo ankawoneka momveka bwino komanso momveka bwino kuti ndi wachifundo wa PKK, membala wa HDP, komanso mdani wa dziko la Turkey. Ndipotu miseche imeneyi ndi pakamwa pa PKK. M’mbuyomu, PKK ndi HDP adazifotokoza. Zachidziwikire, cholinga pano ndi uthenga wopita ku Europe, kudziko lapansi, osati ku malingaliro a anthu aku Turkey. Chifukwa gulu lankhondo la Turkey likugwiritsa ntchito zida zankhondo. Kudandaula za Turkey kunja ndikunyozetsa Turkey kunja ndikupangitsa kukhala chigawenga pamaso pa mabungwe apadziko lonse. Ndilo vuto lawo. Chifukwa amachita zimene amawauza.
“BOMA LA TURKISH SIKUONA IZI”
Panali zotuluka zambiri zofanana kuchokera ku CHP ndi HDP…
Inde, ndi PKK kachiwiri. Muharrem Erkek ali ndi malonjezo kuti padzakhala munthu wina pamalire athu, akhale PYD. Kodi PYD, chowonjezera cha PKK ndi ndani? Kodi sadziwa zimenezo? N’chifukwa chiyani akunena zimenezi? Iwo akufuna kuti a HDP asankhe omwe akufuna kudzawayimira pa chisankho cha Purezidenti, ndizosavuta. Ndipo, ndithudi, malingaliro awo a dziko lapansi amawayenerera. Chifukwa superstructure onse a HDP ndi superstructure CHP anagwira ntchito limodzi m’mabungwe leftist pamaso 1980s, ndipo anamenyana pamodzi ndi dziko lamanja ndi anthu achipembedzo. Pali mgwirizano wotero ndi bwenzi lakale. Koma tsopano, ndithudi, dziko la Turkey silikuwonanso izi. Pamapeto pake, anachita zimene zinali zofunika ndipo anamangidwa. Lamulo la TTB ndi mabungwe ofanana nawo adzabweretsedwa pazokambirana.
“MAWU AMENE WOYENDERA PRESIDENT ASIYENERA KUGWIRITSA NTCHITO”
Komanso, Zomwe Kılıçdaroğlu adanena za mankhwala osokoneza bongo ndi zabodza. Sizodyedwa. Ndipo mawu omwe woyimira pulezidenti sayenera kugwiritsa ntchito. Ndi mawu otani awa? Apa mukulunjika nduna yowona za zamkati. Unduna wa Zam’kati ndi nduna zathu zomwe zimagwira ntchito yolimbana ndi uchigawenga, chitetezo ndi masoka achilengedwe. Ndipo pano, masauzande masauzande mazana masauzande a abale athu apolisi, asilikali ndi asilikali akuimbidwa mlandu. Ndikuganiza kuti Bambo Kılıçdaroğlu apepese. Mawu oterowo ayenera kupeŵedwa. Mutha kutsutsa ndi kunena malingaliro anu, koma simunganene zabodza boma, Republic of Turkey, kapena apolisi ake.
“WEST TURKEY AMAPEZA ADANI AKE NDIKUWAGWIRITSA NTCHITO MALINGA NDI MFUNDO ZAKE”
Zinapezeka kuti Fincancı anali ku Embassy ya US usiku wa July 15. Pambuyo pake, Germany idanena kuti idawona kumangidwa kwa Fincancı kukhala kowopsa. Kodi izi zikutanthauza chiyani kwa inu?
Monga ndanenera kale, amazichita kunja, osati ku Turkey. Ndi umboninso kuti amagwirizana ndi ma imperialists. Chifukwa Kumadzulo kapena USA amapeza adani a Turkey ndikuwagwiritsa ntchito mogwirizana ndi ndondomeko zawo.
“ULEndo waku USA UNAYAMBA NDI NTCHITO YONSE”
Ndikufuna kubwerera kwa Bambo Kılıçdaroğlu. Pakati pa mwezi wa October, panali zokambirana zambiri za ulendo wopita ku USA. Tsopano ku England. Pali ena omwe amawamasulira kuti ‘maulendo a Ijazat’. Kodi nkhaniyi mukuiona bwanji?
Ndizodziwikiratu kuti adapita kukalandira chivomerezo chake ndikukambirana za chisankho chapulezidenti komanso zisankho za 2023 ndi anthu ndi mabungwe kumeneko. Koma adati akumana ndi asayansi ndi mabungwe aukadaulo popeza chivundikiro chake. Koma ulendo waku US udatha mu fiasco wathunthu.
Ndi mbali iti?
Mwa ichi, mmodzi; Sanathe kukumana ndi anthu ambiri amene ankafuna kukumana nawo kumeneko. Wachiwiri ndi uwu; Sanathe kufotokozera mtundu uwu makamaka maola 8 omwe adatayika. Chachitatu, sizinapezeke zopambana m’malingaliro a anthu aku US kapena m’malingaliro athu apagulu. Koma anafotokozedwa kuti ndi kulephera kwakukulu. Koma ndithudi, zomwe anachita mu msonkhano wa maola 8, yemwe adakumana naye, nthawi idzawonetsa ngati ulendowu ndi wokwanira kwa iye.. Ndi pamene inenso ndinanena. Izi ndi zomwe akunena kwa anthu ku Turkey, ‘Tawonani, ndikhoza kukhazikitsa ubale ndi United States, ndikhoza kuchita misonkhano kumeneko’. Tsopano wapita ku England.
“N’CHIFUKWA CHIYANI TIKUPEREKA NDALAMA KWA MUNTHU WOPANDA Ulamuliro?”
Yang’anani zomwe akunena pamene akupita. ‘Ndidzabweretsa ndalama zoyera‘ akuti. Tsopano Britain ndi dziko lakale kwambiri komanso lalikulu kwambiri padziko lonse lapansi. Tsopano mutenga kuti ndalama zoyera kamodzi? Chachiwiri, akunena kuti adzabweretsa ndalama zamakono. Chosiyana ndi chiyani, kodi ndinu Purezidenti wa Republic of Turkey, ndinu purezidenti, ndinu purezidenti wa TOBB? Ayi, ndinu tcheyamani wachipani chomwe chili ndi anthu ambiri mnyumba muno. Pali miyezi 7-8 yoti musankhe. Simungathe kupambanabe pachisankho. Nanga n’cifukwa ciani anthu angapeleke ndalama kwa munthu amene alibe ulamulilo? Sakuti tipambane kaye chisankho ndiye tikumane? M’mawu ena, mawu akuti adzabweretsa ndalama ku boma lake kapena dziko kapena kubweretsa ndalama ku chipani chake sakhulupirira. Chifukwa alibe ulamuliro wolankhula m’malo mwa boma. Choncho, boma lilibe mphamvu zoyankhulira mabungwe ake. Amangofotokoza maganizo ake. Chirichonse chimene iye angakhoze kuchita. Akhoza kuchita m’malo mwa CHP. Akhoza kuchita m’malo mwa amalonda a CHP. Apanso, boma liyenera kudziwitsidwa za iwo. Chifukwa chake, ndikuganiza kuti ulendo uno ubweretsanso fiasco. Adzakhala atangofika kumene ku England ndikupita.
Bambo Kılıçdaroğlu alibe malire otere ku Turkey. Monga mukudziwa, Bambo Kılıçdaroğlu amatha kukumana mosavuta ndi mamembala a FETO ndi zowonjezera za PKK. Chifukwa m’zigawo adapitako.Tibweza mamembala onse a KHK” adatero. Kodi ma KHK ndi ndani? Makamaka mamembala a FETO, mamembala a PKK ndi anthu omwe ali m’mabungwe ena achigawenga.
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